Rep. Zoe Lofgren on “Face the Nation”

The next is a transcript of an interview with Rep. Zoe Lofgren, a California Democrat and member of the Home Choose Committee investigating Jan. 6, that aired Sunday, June 19, 2022, on “Face the Nation.”

MARGARET BRENNAN: We now wish to go to Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren of California. She is in San Jose. Good morning to you. You are one of many investigators on this Choose Committee, and I feel one of the vital highly effective moments was when the retired conservative choose Decide Luttig stated that he sees a transparent and current hazard right this moment. He stated there could possibly be additional makes an attempt to subvert American democracy in 2024. What precisely is the menace you see?

REPRESENTATIVE ZOE LOFGREN: Properly, I feel Decide Luttig stated it very nicely. And by the best way, he’s a really conservative man as soon as thought-about by Republicans for the Supreme Court docket. I feel his concern and I share it’s that the previous president is constant on his marketing campaign to undercut confidence within the election system. They’re putting in a loyalist who say that the election was stolen and states had been going to depend the votes. They clearly tried to get the Vice President to throw the precise votes out and change electors with the shedding candidate. And it appears like that is within the works for the subsequent election as nicely. It is an ideal concern.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So to be clear, there are about 100 Republican candidates for workplace proper now who’re repeating that they’re election deniers they’re repeating a few of what President Trump nonetheless claims. At the very least 5 of them have gained their primaries. Have you ever discovered any direct hyperlinks between any of these candidates and the grift that you’ve been monitoring?

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: Properly, we will launch extra info. I’ve bought the employees engaged on it proper now. Clearly the hearings are a few hours every and you may’t lay out all the knowledge that is been compiled. So I do know there’s been substantial curiosity in the- the massive rip off and we’ll present extra info to the general public quickly.

MARGARET BRENNAN: You are saying establishing direct hyperlinks between these people standing for election to workplace now and the scheme you are laying out?

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: Not essentially. We’ll lay out what we have now.


CZECH REP. LOFGREN: And other people can take a look at it. I do not wish to simply pop off irresponsibly right here.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Your colleagues on the committee, Republican Congressman Adam Kinzinger stated on one other community this morning that he simply acquired a dying menace towards him, his spouse, and his five-month–


MARGARET BRENNAN: –old baby for the work he is doing.


MARGARET BRENNAN: He stated there may be violence sooner or later. Do you agree that you’ve a concern of political violence and have you ever acquired threats?

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: Properly, I do not wish to go into the threads I’ve acquired. I feel it simply encourages extra of them. But it surely’s very regarding that Adam and his spouse and his little child had been threatened. I noticed the menace. It was a written menace. We noticed that Republican Congressman, a really conservative consultant, Crenshaw was roughed up over the weekend at a Republican assembly, as a result of he was not conservative sufficient and I feel that is what the previous president has unleashed right here. You understand, when he despatched out the tweet, attacking his vp, he already knew that the violence was underway. The one conclusion you can–


CZECH REP. LOFGREN: –reach is that he meant to- to speed up that violence towards the previous vp. So, we’re in a really tough time in America proper now. And all of us of us elected officers, but in addition simply Individuals and their neighbors want to face up for the rule of regulation. And towards political violence. It isn’t what America is about.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Mm-Hmm. Properly, for the busy American individuals who might not have been watching the hearings as intently as we had been, precisely what’s the endgame right here? Are you laying out a roadmap for the Division of Justice to in the end attempt to prosecute the previous president?

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: We’re doing what we had been requested to do when the committee was shaped, which is to seek out the reality, lay it out, and we can even be making legislative suggestions. For instance, the Electoral Rely Act was violated, Dr. Eastman admitted as a lot, however we expect we will tighten that up so it’s much less prone to abuse. We’re working at, particularly Liz Cheney and I, are engaged on that. The Division of Justice has to make its personal resolution. We’re laying out info, they will see it, however I am positive they’ve entry to different info as a result of they have grand juries assembly with varied defendants. We’re going to be useful to them when it comes to particular info that they need from the- our personal investigations, however they got- it is not the position of Congress to determine who will get prosecuted.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Properly, a lot of your committee members your fellow committee members have criticized Lawyer Basic Garland for not shifting sooner. So, they do wish to see some sort of motion right here. And there was this letter–

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: Properly that was for–

MARGARET BRENNAN: –from the Justice Division asking for transcripts and saying that your committee’s failure to right away hand them over was complicating their investigation. Precisely what’s going on right here?

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: Properly, that was form of- we had been shocked by that, frankly. And we are going to have interaction. We’re not going to be an impediment to the Division of Justice prosecution of people. We’re in the course of placing these hearings collectively. The employees is working, I imply, extremely arduous together with the members of Congress the place we are going to get, you realize, explicit info that they want over to them in an orderly approach. Definitely, by- by the start of subsequent month.

MARGARET BRENNAN: By the start of subsequent month. Within the subsequent week, you will have a lot of Republican officers from state native governments coming together with Arizona Home Speaker Rusty Bowers, who stated he had been pressured by the President, the previous president’s legal professional Rudy Giuliani and by the previous president himself to retroactively change Arizona regulation to decide on a unique slate of presidential electors. He additionally has stated he acquired emails from Ginni Thomas to reverse Trump’s loss and she or he is the spouse after all of sitting Supreme Court docket Justice Clarence Thomas, will you ask Bowers about that hyperlink to Thomas?

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: Properly, I am not going to step on the committee’s strains for the listening to. However clearly, as you realize, we have invited Ginni Thomas to come back in and go to with the committee, reply our questions, and we have truly acquired extra info after we bought proof from the Eastman emails which have now been ordered launched by Decide Carter in California. And so we have now questions for her and we might have questions for him as nicely.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Will Ginni Thomas seem or do that you must subpoena her? Will her husband seem?

CZECH REP. LOFGREN: Properly, we have requested her to indicate up. She- it was a personal letter, she determined to reveal it, which is her proper to do. And he or she stated publicly that she appears ahead to coming in and speaking to us. So I take her at her phrase that she intends to come back in and we sit up for speaking to her.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Congresswoman Lofgren, thanks to your time, and we’ll be watching. Face the Nation will probably be again in a minute. Stick with us.

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